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When I say, “I’m an Atheist,” I’m not saying, “There is no god”
All I’m really getting at is faith is just a fraud

When I say, “I’m an Atheist,” I’m not criticizing you
I’m critical of bad beliefs — The things that can’t be true

When I say, “I’m an Atheist,” I sigh and shake my head
I’m the one responsible for things I did and said

When I say, “I’m an Atheist,” I like what can be proven
My feelings do not dictate me — Emotions aren’t that movin’

When I say, “I’m an Atheist,” I believe in evolution
To chalk this up to one great dude is not a good solution

When I say, “I’m an Atheist,” I must treasure every day
This life is all we’ve really got — Can’t let it waste away

When I say, “I’m an Atheist,” I’m not saying that I’m bad
The fact that many think we are is really very sad

By David Mason.

 

Comments

[doktor-x.livejournal.com]

And really, even if God did exist, why would you have any respect or love at all for someone who by all accounts is so arrogant and plain evil as to condemn to eternal torture anyone who dares ask for proof he exists?

[layhigh21.livejournal.com]

Must agree *nods*, I myself am agnostic and find the bible hypocritical and full of many, many holes.

[(Anonymous)]

And the funny thing is that said holes are so obvious that one wonders how the hell so many people are fooled by them for so long!

[unusualmusic.livejournal.com]

And the funny thing is that said holes are so obvious that one wonders how the hell so many people are fooled by them for so long!

[layhigh21.livejournal.com]

I know, my parent are christian and anytime I talk about religion with them the spout the bible at me. When I point out the flaws they either com up with excuses or tell me I don't know anything. It makes me so mad.

[doktor-x.livejournal.com]

You threaten their comfortable delusion ^_~

There must be a religion gene, something that makes most people tend to buy into something that’s completely irrational for which there is no evidence at all, but provides the delusion of understanding life and the operation of the universe..

[layhigh21.livejournal.com]

*nod,nod* Most definitely have to agree with you there. I honestly don't understand why so many people turn to god for trivial things. I hear people thanking god for new cars. WTF like god (if he does exist) would really care if you're driving a mini van or a mustang

[doktor-x.livejournal.com]

I wish God would give me a new car! Us poor heretics always seem to have to do everything ourselves ^_^

[unusualmusic.livejournal.com]

Good question. This is the reason why logic and rationality are the enemies of religion.

[doktor-x.livejournal.com]

But, believers have a solidly illogical way of dealing with it all.. Your kid is desperately ill in the hospital and you’re praying all the time.. If the kid gets better, praise God for answering the prayer! If the kid dies, God works in mysterious ways and it’s all part of his beautiful plan, praise God! >_< No matter what, God gets off.. I’m always amused by people who narrowly survive a hurricane and credit God with their survival.. It just seems like it’s equally likely he was trying to kill them with a hurricane, and missed ^_^ And what does it say about the people who did die in the hurricane, God allowed them to die? Wanted them dead? They didn’t pray enough? And what kind of petty monster does that make God?

[avalon13.livejournal.com]

I think, you misunderstand. There are many branches of believers, and I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but not all of us do not believe in evolution, and cheerfully go around blaming every bad thing on not praying enough. I have nothing against atheists, far be it for me to be the one telling you what to believe in, but so cheerfully do you note the imperfections of the religion of others, and cry out in outrage when they do not even attempt to understand your beliefs. Why should they, when you make no attempt to understand theirs?

[doktor-x.livejournal.com]

Well, I was raised Catholic, and the Vatican is currently one of the strongest opponents of creationism out there, which is why I sure wouldn’t claim all religious people are opponents of science.. But, there is something inherently irrational in believing in something for which there is absolutely no proof, much less actual evidence, and which is completely fantastic. And really, it’s fascinating how people can believe completely and without question in their own god or gods, while casually dismissing those others believe in today, or in history. Why should I believe the Judeo-Christian-Muslim God is real, but Zeus and Apollo just fictional characters? Why not believe my garden is occupied by fairies? Or that there’s a secret school for wizards and witches in the UK? There’s an equal absence of evidence for all.. I really don’t understand the ability of people to genuinely believe in such things..

[avalon13.livejournal.com]

Then I have grown up with a priest not properly sanctioned by the vatican, because he sure as Hell believes in evolution.(and keeps his homilies short during football season)

Then don't. Don't believe in God, believe in whoever you want. Believe in little green men, for all I care. But whether you like it or not, there ARE people who believe, and aren't complete asses about it, and they deserve a little more respect that the lot of you are giving them.

I'm not here to start a debate about whose religion is correct, and whose religion is truck load of tripe. I'm just saying live, and let live, and by all means make your religious jokes, but don't be malicious about it. People shouldn't be made fun of because they believe in something. I think the justice system is a load of crap, but you don't see me going around telling policemen they're suckers. And maybe, for all you know, these people have proof of their own, and it's enough for them.

[doktor-x.livejournal.com]

All well and good, but at the moment I live in a society that views nonbelievers as something akin to murderers, and my pagan friends as sworn enemies of Jesus.. I’m not demanding that school kids stand up in class each morning and renounce religion, but there’s a heck of a lot of people demanding they stand up and pray to the majority’s god.. Geez, where I live there’s people who publically condemn me as being evil for celebrating Halloween…

[avalon13.livejournal.com]

I never really liked the bible. It's so....old fashioned. So...passe. I rather like to think God has a sense of humor. So let me have my blasphemy, and my jesus jokes, because Hell, if God really is that great he'll know I'm just having a laugh and chuckle, pat me on the back and say,

"That's a good one. Why did he chicken cross the road?"

I rather like to think God is cooler than what the bible says. He sees into the heart and soul of man after all, that's got to mean something.

[unusualmusic.livejournal.com]

I never really liked the bible. It's so....old fashioned. So...passe. I rather like to think God has a sense of humor.

I really wish HE did have a sense of humour. But if he's up there, I really wish that he would come on down and sort out the truth from the lies being spouted by his followers.

[avalon13.livejournal.com]

I don't think he can. All part of the free will package, I'm afraid. I don't think I'm a very good catholic. I would make a much better episcopalian. I sort of take the Jesus is all things associated with love and joy and ignore the other bits I don't like.

I think my mind set is easiest when imagined like this;

Imagine Paradise is a house, or more accurately, inside of the house. And everybody wants to get in the house. There are many ways to get in, and some are more difficult than others. You could go through the roof, you can go through the window, or you could stroll through the door, but the fact of the matter is, the entire point is to get into the bloody house.

My belief is that if God is really All That, then he won't mind if we go through the roof.

[unusualmusic.livejournal.com]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Loves this definition!

[unusualmusic.livejournal.com]

My only issue with this is the whole free will part. I don't think it's free will if you are threatened with hell and damnation for not following the good lord's will. It's more akin to terrorism for me.

[avalon13.livejournal.com]

I'm catholic. And I only know what has been told to me in the Catholic Way(with a bit of my warped philosophy) . God offers you choices. He offers you the choice to make the right decision or the wrong one. And each decision takes its course. And life is decision after decision, and really, it's our choice which one you choose to take. Eternal damnation isn't going to happen after swearing a few times. If it did, we're all buggered. And it's not like you can't say, 'sorry, about that. Don't mind it, will you?' Forgiveness is sort of easy. But you have to mean it. Likewise, if you're going to go around denouncing god, well, he'll be in a bit of a tiff, but you're only in trouble if you really mean it, then go around sacrificing virgins later.

But God isn't about to send you to blazed for being a jealous or lustful, or seven sins-ish, if you try. I think that's the whole point really, that at very least you try. Because it means you aren't a completely lost cause. At the end of the day, all he really wants is you to be a good person.

[avalon13.livejournal.com]

I do not have the words to explain. They fall from me, and evade my grasp. In a way, it's like explaining colour to the blind. Faith places a big part in it. If you do not believe, how can you expect God to help you. It's not that he doesn't want to, but more that he can't. You wouldn't know it from the way I act, but I like being Christian. I like having something, someone to believe in. I like feeling that despite my faults and my wrong doings, there is someone out there who accepts it and doesn't hold it against me. And despite what the bible says, that's what Jesus is all about. (I sound kind of re-born christian, but I really think this) And you can't take the bible at face value, because priests spend their entire lives studying and discerning all meaning from it, and I'm sorry, but I don't think one person who reads it, and doesn't believe can find what they're looking for. And I'm not saying the bible isn't without it's plot holes, lord knows they're a few verses I could live without and make no bloody sense, but these are the accounts of humans, and when have they ever been precise? Like all things, believing is, for lack of better term, a leap of faith.

[(Anonymous)]

Hmm. When I was younger, I was a Christian. Went to Church and Bible study, and due to the fact that I was a person who loved to read, read the whole Bible one day. Daddy was an atheist and he was the first one to start pointing out errors. Little by little, I started seeing the errors for myself. Let me enumerate some of my objections. God is supposed to be perfect. All knowing. All powerful. So, he knew what the results of his making humans would be before he even made them. So why punish them for doing exactly what the knew they were going to do? Or did he somehow stop himself from knowing what they were going to do? And why make homosexuals, transgendered people and then condemn them for acting on the impulses that he gave them anyway? Come to think of it, that argument extends to everyone, murderers adulterers,pedophiles, the works. Since he supposedly made us, then why give us impulses and stuff that we cannot control and then punish us for it?

And you would think that if he was going to give us a book that was supposed to guide us, that he would make sure that the inspired humans that took down his words got the damn words right. The Bible doesn't make sense and half the history in it is distorted or simply not true. The commandments are an f..ing joke, sheesh, in an earlier post I copied the twelve exhortations of a pagan that made much better sense and was way more righteous than those ridiculous orders to oppress women and kill everyone for minor offenses and shit., And if he saw that his followers were misquoting him, then why the hell didn't he intervene. Faith to me is the shroud that was made up by priests to cover the flaws in their reasoning and dissuade people from questioning too closely. Give me evidence. Then I will believe.

[doktor-x.livejournal.com]

That free will thing doesn’t make any sense to me at all.. If God created all, and knows all that was or will ever be, and God is perfect, then how can anything not be God’s intentional design? God created the world knowing full well it would produce Hitler who would kill millions. He designed it, He knew the outcome. How could it be said there’s any free will in there other than God's?

[unusualmusic.livejournal.com]

Exactly.

[avalon13.livejournal.com]

I always thought this would date back to genesis and Eve and her goddam apple. Blah, blah, blah, all was good till she ate the forbidden fruit, blah, tempted by the serpent, etc.